Four Fs Podcast
Welcome to the official Four Fs podcast - a space for candid stories. Hosted by Jeff Cluff, each episode dives into authentic conversations with remarkable people across technology, business, and everyday life. Expect thoughtful questions, unexpected wisdom, and a few laughs along the way. When you ...
Recent Episodes
Sept. 23, 2025
Episode 6: Rich Kaplan: Leadership and Y2K
In this conversation, Rich Kaplan shares his experiences and insights from his time at Microsoft, particularly during the Y2K crisis. He discusses the importance of leadership, effective communication, and the need for clarit...
Sept. 3, 2025
Episode 5: Andreae Pohlman
From Casio diary to cyber defense: How technology curiosity shaped Andreae Pohlman's military-Microsoft arc. In this conversation, Andreae Pohlman (Dr. Dre) shares her journey from a tech-savvy child in Texas to a successful ...
Aug. 5, 2025
Episode 4: Mike Owen
In this episode, Jeff is joined by Mike Owen—a former Microsoft engineer whose 18+ year tech career started in a unionized grocery store and ended with an unexpectedly powerful final act. Mike shares how he rebounded from a r...
July 23, 2025
Episode 3: Chris Walker
Worms, Y2K, and Wine Cellars. How Chris Walker helped Solve for some of the most prolific Internet Worms in history is much more than BASIC. From Dartmouth’s BASIC revolution to Microsoft’s Y2K firefight, Chris Walker helped ...
July 23, 2025
Episode 2: Jan Nelson
An artist’s evolution: How theater and the arts shaped Jan Nelson’s career in technology Jan Nelson’s journey spans software revolutions, spiritual resilience, and cosmic creativity. In this episode, Jan reflects on the tensi...
June 20, 2025
Episode 1: Maureen O'Hara's Journey Through Technology, Education, and the Pandemic
Step into the world of early tech pioneers with a former Microsoft leader who turned project failures into career-defining wisdom, helped launch a vaccine finder during the pandemic over a long weekend, and still managed to t...
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